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Marianne Bergvall's avatar

Wherever there is support for Palestine, the ugly head of the haters show up - the genocide supporters, those who don't think enough children in Gaza have been bombed to death and pieces. My new approach is to regard them as equal to child pornography users or human traffickers - they don't have an opinion that has any right to be heard in a public debate. To let them have a voice is a gigantic misunderstanding of the ideal of a balanced public debate. We are not interested in hearing why child pornography users think it's so great and that it shouldn't be illegal at all - and therefore we never hear them! They wouldn't even try! Support for genocide should be on the exact same level - only that the crime of genocide is the worst crime of all. So when I see their bad smelling comments, I report them, I encourage Substack to remove them totally, and then I ban them forever and delete their comments. Some of you who have done a heroic effort of trying to argue against them, I thank you, and your comments are still there. So it looks a bit strange, but this is the explanation. I hope everyone else will do the same. We should not allow them a platform for their disgusting outpours. I write this also to debate-editors in the press - don't allow them in the columns! Shut them up! The only way to defend Israel is by lying and pretending that the genocide isn't happening. So we shouldn't have to read all this garbage in the mainstream media - where some of it comes in a more academic wrapping. It's still is the same genocide-defending shit. It should be called out for what it is. And our politicians too, when they bring the Israeli propaganda.

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eleanor sanchez's avatar

The reason for this is their inhumane souls

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Chris He's avatar

Just as Im writing my comment, the entire text is suddenly gone! It's happened before, and pisses me off! Has anyone had the same experience here?

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Marianne Bergvall's avatar

When I see what is actually hate crime comments from the genocide defenders, I click on the three dots, where you get the choise of Reporting, or deleting, or deleting forever, and to remove all the comments. Then I click on the Report, and ask Substack to please remove this creepy lowlife person who openly loves the genocide and the killing of thousands of children. And hoping that Substack shapes up!

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John's avatar

I recently subscribed to Marianne's Substack on the recommendation of "Palestine Will Be Free", and I am glad that I did! The latest post dives deep into UN resolutions, exploring the reasons behind the unjustified overturning of some of them. It's a fascinating read that sheds light on important Palestinian issues.

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Marianne Bergvall's avatar

Thank you so much for your kind words, John!:oD

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KnoxAnn Armijo's avatar

I just subscribed and read every single word and looked at he amazing photos. I am deeply grateful and impressed by this thoughtful woman. Hamas is a government , not a terrorist organization. And Ariel Sharon was the impetus behind so much corruption and violence.

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Utejack's avatar

THE FATHER OF TERRORISM

The red light had come on, under the lens. Without preamble, I turned my shoulder to the camera, stared straight into Begin's eyes, and asked: "How does it feel, in the light of all that's going on, to be the father of terrorism in the Middle East?"

"In the Middle East?" he bellowed, in his thick, cartoon accent. "In all the world! "

This is a direct passage taken from the article written for The Washington Report On Middle East Affairs , July 1991 page 35.

The article was written by Russell Warren Howe and this Menachan Begin quote was taken from a recorded interview Russell was taping with Begin for for American television in 1974.

I learned about these telling words from Mr. Begin while I was reading Alison Weir’s excellent book titled

Against Our Better Judgement

The hidden history of how the U.S. was used to create Israel

I appreciate your most excellent perspective Marianne. Thanks for the knowledge.✌🏼❤️🙏🕉

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Sol Sön's avatar

I agree, israel is the terrorist, Palestinians are partisans freedom fighter, only Palestinians can elect their leaders.

Thx for sharing

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Nihad Ben Salah's avatar

"We who are desperate for Israels’ slaughter to end, must step up our game. It’s not enough to call for ceasefire and free Palestine. We must do more to get there. It’s time to defend the resistance in the public debate."

Thank you, Marianne for vocalizing what I am desperately doing. Yes we MUST NOT FEAR to do that! There is an intellectual terrorism even within those who wants ceasefire that wants to make you back up when you talk about the resistance, who look at you with contempt when you refuse to adhere to their statements in which they always sneak a "Hamas terrorist" between the lines. For some it is a matter of political correctness, they cannot handle a discussion because they are out of arguments after 5 minutes and they end it by saying " anyway all the world says Hamas is terrorist". No, it's not!

Yes, all settler colonialist entities of the world says it, all western old colonial power says it, but not the people and the countries that were/are victims of those entities.

So we just need to know in what side we want to be.

You highlited a very important matter in your piece. Many of those who explain and understand the Palestinian resistance are not leftist. My leftist heart recognizes it with deep sorrow. The Palestinian resistance is a humanitarian cause which is caused by geopolical cold inhumane interests. You don't need to be leftist to support this resistance, you just need to be humane.

We are beyond the "left" and "right" dichotomy my friends!

Finally, I'll definitely share your piece when I am exhausted with a never-ending discussion.

Thank you.

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Marianne Bergvall's avatar

Thank you so much for this! It is good to know that others feel like me about this. So many times in discussions we get to the point where I get the question: "You don't defend Hamas, do you??" Like they expect a "No, of course not, but...." And when I say, Yes, I do, I see the faces crawl like they took a bite of a very sour lemon. It's a big job ahead:)

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KnoxAnn Armijo's avatar

Thank goodness for you. I am soon to be 80. I have been a witness to Israel and the madness. Ariel Sharon and the slaughter in Lebanon at two refugee camps. One Shantila. They have been dealing in hate for most of my life. Your post moved me. I know this truth. I am a witness to see and hear the propaganda. Albert Camus wrote in The Rebel what Palestinians are doing. Fighting against oppression and violence. Racism and the worst kind of hate. Dehumanizing conduct. How brave they are. USA is obsessed with Trump and this country feels very dangerous because freedom is very expensive here. Easily bought by lobbyists and politicians. So relieved to see your post. I am grateful for your support of Palestinians and Hamas is not a terrorist organization. I am terrified that Netanyahu will blow up Al Aqsa and Dome of the Rock. I have heard Israelis say they want to build the Temple Mount. That is insanity

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Fatima's avatar

Resisting and defending your own country is not terrorism

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Jay's avatar

Well thanks for that EU, most people who follow independent journalist, those of us who are critical thinks already saw with our own eyes that hamas, hezbollah, and the hooties are not terrorist the real terrorist are Israel, America, and the UK. We have seen the evidence

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Rebecca Zlochower's avatar

The EU finally got something right.

Now if they can stop arming Israel and start sanctioning them….

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Alison Bailey's avatar

We know that they are resisting an evil occupation. I pray the world over, that people know this. And’m still arguing, even this morning, on Instagram, this exact point.

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Laurent A. Lambert's avatar

Very interesting.

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Dean Smith's avatar

We who support the resistance should book our tickets in our thousands in our millions because we are all Palestinians and stand on the green line , the demonstrations on our streets will never make a difference our governments don't listen and the vast majority of the public don't hear us or don't care .

Until we who believe Palestine must be free stand on that land to stand in Solidarity with our brothers and sisters our voices will never be heard or taken seriously.

I promise if this could be organised I will book my flight , it's made possible for sports events religious events so why not to help save Palestine.

In our millions and millions we need to stand side by side with the beautiful Palestinians.

Free Palestine

Dean Smith

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Marianne Bergvall's avatar

Hello Dean! I love your comment! I wrote the same many years ago - that we should take our positions along the Green Line! And I suggested that the Palestinians put up a small, white picket fence along the Green Line - just to make visible how terribly wrong the apartheid wall is. The problem is, of course, that to get to the Westbank, you have to take a plane to Tel Aviv in Israel. And they will most likely not let us in, and we will be sent on the first plane right back to where we came from. We have to fight harder to make our politicians feel the need to change their stance. We have to hold them accountable! https://mariannebergvall.substack.com/p/norways-prime-minister-accused-of-complicity-to-genocide

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Meredith Hobbs's avatar

So clarifying. Thank you.

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bernie holland's avatar

This is an excellent piece of writing which provides an accurate historical context which sets the record straight.

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Tim Lawrence's avatar

1 2 3 4, occupation no more, 5 6 7 8, Israel is a terror state 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

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CK's avatar

Hamas are freedom fighters defending their homeland against invaders.

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